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March 1

Help

How do I request two articles to be merged Maestrofin (talk) 01:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Per Proposing a merge,

If the need for a merge is obvious, editors can be bold and simply do it. [...] Articles that have been separate for a long time should usually be discussed first, especially those on controversial topics. [...] Create a discussion [...] usually done on the proposed destination page's talk page.

There are instructions on the exact steps in said guidance. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 01:38, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Moses Montefiore

Ref. number 5 does not have a page number - is this a problem? Thanks for any advice or repairs to this page that you might consider necessary. 115.70.23.77 (talk) 04:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Political issues aside (speaking only with regard to general page numbers), it probably doesn't because Google Books usually doesn't show page numbers and that appears to be where it's accessed from. It having a quote is better than nothing but it would be better if it had one, yes PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:52, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

PARAKANYAA, the book in question is a 2023 ebook published by Rutgers University Press. Ebooks by their very nature lack page numbers. If Google Books displays content of a scanned paper book, then page numbers will be shown. Cullen328 (talk) 06:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, but sometimes there's a print copy which you can get numbers from. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

PARAKANYAA, you are correct. The book in question was also published in paperback. Cullen328 (talk) 20:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

DRAFT: Francsico R Adriano Sr.

Hello, I have a draft and I want to submit for approval Francsico R Adriano Sr. I clicked publish but it does not seem to be submitted, please advise. Abehonest (talk) 07:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Abehonest, I submitted the draft as you requested. However, it is likely to be declined because it is poorly referenced. Please read Your first article and improve the draft accordingly as soon as possible. Cullen328 (talk) 09:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

"Publish" doesn't mean "publish to the main encyclopaedia", it just means "Save my work" - it was changed to emphasise that everything in Wikipedia (including drafts, user pages, talk pages) are publicly visible to those who know look for them. ColinFine (talk) 12:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Spammer claiming to be wikipedia administartor proposing to boost my page

Hello, I just want to alert you that there is a spammer targeting academia, which is claiming to be a Wikipedia editor and proposing to spice up your biography (I guess for a fee). I'm not sure it is a good idea to post the full text of the spam or the name of the person in question (maybe a pseudonym), I'll do it if you confirm it is ok. Otherwise, you can contact me at 18bkbm5lf _at_ mozmail.com (or via talk page, if I get a notification) and I'll provide the full mail.

cheers

08:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC) 18bkbm5lf (talk) 08:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

It's almost certainly a scam. A lot of this happens. See, for example, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-02-13/Disinformation report.   Maproom (talk) 08:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Scams happen everywhere, very little that can be done about it. When we find users like this, we block them, but usernames are cheap so they easily come back. The most important advice that can be given is to always be sceptical about anyone you do not know offering you stuff. Wikipedia, Internet, ice cream truck alike. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, 18bkbm5lf. Please read Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning and provide complete details to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org as soon as possible. Cullen328 (talk) 09:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, do not worry about me, I'm not going to get scammed this time. I have transmitted the message as requested. 18bkbm5lf (talk) 09:38, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

See all my logged in sessions in different devices

There is a way to see all my current logged in sessions in different devices and to log out of them? Yilku1 (talk) 12:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Yilku1,

At least for me, when I am logged in on multiple devices and then 'Log out' on one of them, I no longer logged in on the others either. DMacks (talk) 06:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I looks like that worked. Yilku1 (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

How do I report a user?

. 109.166.132.227 (talk) 15:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

There are lots of different answers to that question, depending on the circumstances. Sometimes, the answer is "you don't report them, you open a discussion with them, to try and reach consensus". Sometimes the answer is "you don't report them, you put a user warning on their talk page". And sometimes you do report them, but there are different places to do this, depending on what the issue is. ColinFine (talk) 16:29, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree with ColinFine, and the general principle is to be specific and provide a reasonable level of detail when asking for advice anywhere on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 20:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Old version of the image is displayed instead of the new one

Hello, I've recently uploaded a new version of File:Linguistic map of Italy.svg, but in that page's "Suggested Legend" section the previous version of this image is still displayed. How can I fix that? Cosocosa (talk) 15:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Purge the cache: ctrl + f5 Yilku1 (talk) 15:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Do I use the via or publisher parameters for this?

When I'm using citation templates, and there's a news source that was republished elsewhere (not about news agencies, ik the agency parameter) by a different source, do I put the republishing organization in the "via" or "publisher" parameters? I'm aware that if the non-aggregate news source is available that is preferred, but the one I most often run into this case with is an African news website (allAfrica) which has a lot that isn't accessible elsewhere anymore. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I would use via. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you :) PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:13, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Add Only Verified Data

Do not write and add unsourced data to any page or article Harman Godara (talk) 19:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

@Harman Godara Agreed. That is a core policy explained at WP:V. Do you have a question related to this? Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

How can I become a moderator

Hi. I’m booking for watching out for an appropriate changes to articles and then misuse of editing 1f5g56y (talk) 20:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

FYI

Blocked for disruptive editing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Guideline on name changes

I'm writing an article on a German who immigrated to Latin America in the early 20th century. As was customary at the time, they took a Hispanicized version of their birth name – by which they are more well-known – without making any actual legal name change (that I know of). In that case, how would one go about writing their name in the article lead? I've dotted down a few forms:

• Spanish, born: Pablo Busch Wiesneer (born Paul Busch; 4 November 1867 – c. 1940)...
• Spanish first: Pablo Busch Wiesner (German: Paul Busch; 4 November 1867 – c. 1940) ...
• Birth name first: Paul Busch (Spanish: Pablo Busch Wiesner; 4 November 1867 – c. 1940) ...
• Both bold: Paul Busch (4 November 1867 – c. 1940), also known as Pablo Busch Wiesner, ...

Which would you go with, or is there a different form you prefer? Let me know. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Put the better-known name first and as the article's title per WP:COMMONNAME. Bolding the other name is IMO preferred. Definitely no italics though. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Another question would be if there's any precedent for individuals with multiple legal names. It's not a common occurrence, but happens occasionally when one has two nationalities. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography § Changed names,

In some cases, a subject may have changed their full name at some point after birth. In these cases, the birth name may be given in the lead as well, if relevant:

• From Jack Benny: Jack Benny (born Benjamin Kubelsky, February 14, 1894 – December 26, 1974) ...

Regarding multiple names,

Multiple former names may be mentioned in the lead, boldfaced if they redirect to the article. However, it is not always appropriate to list every previous name of a subject, only the birth name and those that were in use during the period of notability.

• NBill de Blasio (born Warren Wilhelm Jr., May 8, 1961)  is a politician .... He was briefly known as Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm ...

The names should be distributed throughout the lead to mark major transitions in the subject's life:

• YAugustus (63 BC – 14 AD) was a Roman emperor .... He was born Gaius Octavius Thurinus into a wealthy family .... He assumed the name Octavian after his adoption ...

Incidentally, regarding the language template, per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility § Other languages,

If text should not be italicized—such as the names of places or people—it is possible to add italic=no to override the default behaviour.

Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 04:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

That makes sense. In my case, though, I'm dealing with an individual who would have regularly used both names, dependent on which country they were in. He would use "Pablo" in Latin America and "Paul" in Germany, throughout his life.

The closest example I can approximate of one article using multiple translations of a given name would be the German monarchs William/Wilhelm I and Frederick/Friedrich III. In such a case, perhaps?:

• Pablo Busch Wiesener or Paul Busch (4 November 1867 – 3 May 1950).

I think I've just answered my own question. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 04:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

According to the guideline, the key is their birth name. There is different guidance for monarchs though. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 04:21, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Would the birth name take precedence even if the translated name is the common name? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 04:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Actually in the examples above, the birth name does not take precedence. It may be good to follow this guidance in order to note which was the birth name, highlighting thus that the other name is not the birth name. But in this case for changed names. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 05:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I think I'll just go with: Pablo Busch Wiesener (born Paul Busch) and add an explanatory note. Can never go wrong with explanatory notes! Thanks for the help.

Uh... Sincerely Krisgabwoosh (talk) 06:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Notes

March 2

Regarding other users editing my talk page

Hello all, I recently noticed that I have received two notifications regarding my talk page. One comment/question was posted and then, before I could get to it, another random (to me, based on this user's edit log) user removed it for no reason. This wasn't a case of users asking me to remove anything inappropriate or anything; my talk page is a pretty bare place where I mostly tend to receive notifications for occasionally accidentally linking to disambiguation pages. I guess my question is: can anyone explain a situation like this, or has anyone experienced a situation like this? I still have the links to the two edits, if that would help with anything.

Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 01:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, anyone can see your talk page history, it looks as though a new editor posted on your talk page and another editor thought the edit wasn't constructive and reverted it. Generally editors shouldn't delete posts on other editors' user pages, see Wikipedia:User pages. TSventon (talk) 01:43, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Pinging user:14 novembre, who removed the edit in question. Meters (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

It appears that the IP you undid on Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) [1] created an account to ask you about the edit, but did not add a link or diff, so it should not have been removed from your talk page. Meters (talk) 01:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @Meters and @TSventon. So I can revert that back so I can respond to the IP who created an account? I was even more surprised by the "random" edit because it appears that that user does not engage in much (if any) editing for music-related articles here on Wikipedia. Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 22:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

It's your talk page, so yes, you can undelete the edit. TSventon (talk) 22:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay, great, just wanted to make sure. Thanks again!! EPBeatles (talk) 00:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Meters one caveat, experienced editors often remove obvious vandalism from other editors’s talk pages. Doug Weller talk 21:32, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

It was User:TSventon who made the more general comment, or did you mean to ping User:EPBeatles? I simply said that in this case the revert should not have been made. Meters (talk) 23:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller and Meters:, possibly what I said was too simplistic, but I did start with "generally" and refer to the guidance. TSventon (talk) 01:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I need help in removing a "ghost" category

w:es:Teresa Broseta is for some reason included in w:es:Categoría:Personas intersexo (Which is FALSE).

However when I try to edit the page to remove the category it simply disappears from the list and does not show up in the editing mode at all. CLick back to read mode and it's there again. Please help. Dascomb1812 (talk) 01:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Dascomb1812, this is an en Wikipedia helpdesk, but I think the es article may be using Wikidata, where the gender was changed in November 2023. TSventon (talk) 01:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Apololgies for the wrong use of the forum, I did not realize. However your help was exactly what I needed so I wanted to thank you. Dascomb1812 (talk) 02:14, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

How to revert bulk incorrect changes?

(UPDATED - SEE BELOW) I noticed that Wondabyne has changed a large number of articles about Australian places to insert a timezone of UTC+10. The problem is that this is wrong. Entire states observe Daylight Saving Time ("summer time") for much of the year, including right now. Is there some way to do a bulk revert? Gronk Oz (talk) 05:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

There might(?) be an admin tool that can do it, without that using redwarn or twinkle and doing them individually is probably fastest, although some (including [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]) have AEST as the "normal" time and AEDT as the summer time, so (from what I understand) some are right, since both are observed. (Although I don't see any sources so there's that and I'm not sure how similar the daylight time observations in Australia compare with Arizona) Shaws username . talk . 05:43, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@gronk oz: mass rollback, but it requires rollback. ltbdl (talk) 05:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

UPDATE - on closer inspection, I found that (at least some of) these articles already had DST entries. So those ones will be okay. (I know I should have checked more thoroughly before wasting everybody's time, sorry about that - for some reason, some articles already had the DST parameter but not the standard time.) I have asked the editor concerned to confirm whether they checked them all before making their changes. If so, I am happy to apologize and move on...--Gronk Oz (talk) 05:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I noticed this case independently; I've mass-reverted the edits as block evasion. Graham87 (talk) 09:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Help pages

Are help pages policy? 2003LN6 06:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@2003 LN6: no. ltbdl (talk) 06:54, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, 2003 LN6. Policy pages are marked clearly as policy at the top of the page. Help pages may not formally be policy pages, but most help pages are widely accepted and many of them do a very good job of explaining and clarifying policy. Cullen328 (talk) 09:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328 and @Ltbdl: Thank you 2003LN6 19:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

How to fix a NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID error.

I've been receiving a NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID error which means I cannot visit en.wikipedia.org at all because the website uses HSTS.

This is a new problem that has popped up in the past couple of days. I am running a browser called Brave at version 1.41.100 which has been working fine up until a couple days ago.

Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this? Thanks for your help! Cbird1057 (talk) 06:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@cbird1057: to bypass this, click "advanced" and "proceed to en.wikipedia.org". or is this something different? ltbdl (talk) 07:06, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I can't seem to get it to work using the standard HSTS modification methods. I've got Wikipedia running fine in Firefox. Perhaps I need to wait for the network error to expire, although it's been messed up since March 1st. Cbird1057 (talk) 03:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

search online for how to clear the HSTS cache in the browser. It should help with getting the browser to load the updated SSL certificate. – robertsky (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Creating portal as draft

Can i create a portal as a draft and later move it as a portal? MAL MALDIVE (talk) 08:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Creating a totally new page with the same/similar subject

As I explained the situation before, I would like to edit (but I see that it's not possible) the content of the Transactional Analysis wikipedia page. It will be more than an edit because I think this content needs to be fully changed so that people who are interested in it could get a much better insight on it. My question is now; can I create a totally new page about Transactional Analysis with a new content and proper references, with the same name or maybe with a very similar name? Would this be accepted and approved by Wikipedia team? many thanks in advance for your support and response. BowlbyMaya (talk) 09:01, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

If you think that the article needs to be wholesale rewritten, it might be a good idea to discuss this on the talk page first, to see if other editors agree or have other ideas, before you invest the time needed to perform the rewrite. 331dot (talk) 09:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

BowlbyMaya, the answer is "no". Wikipedia has one and only one article about each discrete topic. We do not have multiple articles about Issac Newton or Taylor Swift or Astronomy, although each of those articles have appropriate spinoff articles. But each discrete, narrowly defined topic should have a single article. Your statement that I would like to edit (but I see that it's not possible) the content of the Transactional Analysis wikipedia page appears to be false. Transactional analysis is unprotected, and any editor is free to edit that article, in compliance with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines. Efforts to edit so that people who are interested in it could get a much better insight on it are a violation of WP:Righting great wrongs. That objective is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. We do not care at all about "better insights" on Wikpedia, but rather whether or not a specific article accurately summarizes what reliable sources entirely independent of the topic say about the topic. Literally nothing more and nothing less. As a matter of policy, acceptable Wikipedia articles are written from the Neutral point of view and cannot promote the topic in Wikipedia's voice in any way. Cullen328 (talk) 09:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply and explanation! BowlbyMaya (talk) 09:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

Jane Parker (academic) has a number of issues including conflict of interest, failed sources and notability, the article's subject (using multiple ip addresses) has repeatedly added details of forthcoming publications to the already large list, how do I request extended confirmed protection? Theroadislong (talk) 10:27, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong - apply at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, although as the vandalism is from IP adresses, I suspect they will only add semi-protection. - Arjayay (talk) 10:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm not sure how I failed to find that page during my searches. Theroadislong (talk) 10:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete a redirect

How do I delete a redirect? GLSpres (talk) 13:24, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

GLSpres, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. TSventon (talk) 13:28, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

In addition to the above, non-administrators cannot delete redirects. – 64andtim 🤔 (problem?) 16:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Alternatively, to publish a draft over a redirect, see Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. However the OP is currently blocked, so this is moot. TSventon (talk) 20:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

syntax coding error

The is a syntax coding error in a Wikipedia page edited by me. Please help me how to fix it

A branch of this order was introduced in Singapore by the followers of Shaikh Muhammad Said al-Linggi (d.1926). Idrisiyya was introduced in Pakistan by Shaikh Hafiz Muhammad Amin bin Abdul Rehman (b.1941 d.22.Aug.2023).Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).), and Ja'fariyya. Hamin99 (talk) 16:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Idrisiyya. I've fixed the error. Maproom (talk) 16:44, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Greek island written weirdly

My last post on the help desk, this time about a Greek island written weirdly.

Hello, inn the article Leros, the article is what I say it’s written weirdly. It mentions the article Mile, as well as the nautical mile and the kilometer, as well as the “Traditional music” section and finally, this mention. It says “from which it can reach from a nine-hour ferry ride or a 45-minute flight to Athens.” Aegean and Olympic serve the main airport of the island on a 1-hour flight. Can someone explain why this? (P.S. This is my last post on the help desk. Also mentions the Italian language. Finally, the ferry departs from Piraeus. I’ve been to Greece in 2021, specifically Athens.) 2.103.231.248 (talk) 18:28, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

The lede is just a brief summary. The Transportation section says the ferry leaves from Piraeus and also other locations. Information in an article must come from pubished sources, not personal knowledge. RudolfRed (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Then who added such sections? Let me know if you finished looking up the edit history and found that user/IP. 2.103.231.248 (talk) 10:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

The references to mile and nautical mile are simply parenthesised conversions for those more familiar with these units. It's not weird, putting in conversions is normal practice. I've also tidied up the "20 miles to Turkey" putting the kilometres in the prose and the miles in the parentheses. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Who added that section? IP? User? Once again, as I said earlier, look up the edit history. Any answers are highly appreciated. 2.103.231.248 (talk) 17:12, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

If you're that concerned, you can always look it up yourself. Click on the "View history" tab and explore. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Signature issue

• I'm starting this with a bullet point to illustrate the issue: any time I respond on a Talk page with a bullet point (such as !votes in a discussion) or pound sign (for a numbered list), it kicks my signature onto a new line. This only happens for bulleted discussions. Any idea what's causing it & how to correct the behavior?

— The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 19:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@HandThatFeeds: You should be able to fix this by adding ~~~~ in the location where you want your signature to appear. For example, * This is a message. ~~~~ produces:

• This is a message. Tollens (talk) 19:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

This is just because of how the reply tool works – it will add your signature outside of any lists unless you specify where exactly you want it to go. Tollens (talk) 19:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Hm, that's somewhat annoying. But thank you, that explains what's happening, and at least gives me some control over it. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 19:21, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

how do i request an article becomes protected?

Scientology officials

the above article needs protected status NotQualified (talk) 20:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@NotQualified: The place to request page protection is WP:RFPP, but there does need to be a history of frequent disruption on the page you are asking for protection on – articles are not protected preemptively. That page doesn't appear to have such a history so that request would almost certainly be declined. Tollens (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

ahhh i see, okay good to know thank you. NotQualified (talk) 21:06, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Is it just me?

When i click in the search box, a list of previous searches pops up of things i don't remember searching at all. At first I thought it was only me, but now i'm thinking of a similar case that happened on youtube years ago, in which i thought it was only me and then i found out it was happening to lots more people. Maybe this is similar? - Joaquin89uy (talk) 23:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

When you just click in the search box, your web browser may bring up some suggestions on its own, which likely have nothing to do with Wikipedia. Once you start typing, then there will be some suggested matches from Wikipedia articles. Bear in mind that the Wikipedia search is extremely primitive compared to the typical web search engine. It's mostly useful when you know the name of the article, or at least the beginning of the article name, though it does search article content if you don't accept any of the suggestions. There are slightly advanced and more advanced features, but nothing that "just works" the way that Google does. Fabrickator (talk) 03:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Eeli Aalto's photographs of Jumalan teatteri

Eeli Aalto, a Finnish artist and director, was the only member of the audience at the "Jumalan teatteri" event in Oulu on 17 January 1987 who watched the entire performance, and took the only known photographs of the event. His photographs can be seen at least here and here. The photographs are of quite bad quality because of the hectic situation at the time and because photography technology 37 years ago was less advanced than now. Can these pictures be used in the article Jumalan teatteri? And if so, how would I go about using them? JIP | Talk 23:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

JIP the photographs are likely to be covered by copyright, so they can't be uploaded to Commons. As the group is no longer active, it may be possible to claim fair use and upload an image to Wikipedia following the guidance in Wikipedia:Non-free content. I have not done this myself. TSventon (talk) 10:14, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

March 3

Trying to understand NGEO

What counts as being legally recognized? Census records? PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello @PARAKANYAA, your question may be misunderstanding, so I would like you to clarify your question above in order to help our volunteers easily understand and answer your query. 2001:EE0:4BC7:72C0:21CD:A8F5:EB1C:410F (talk) 04:42, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA, in the United States census records may be enough to establish notability, but there isn't really a standard of "legal recognition" that works all around the world. A discussion about this came up a few months ago on Wikipedia talk:Notability (geographic features). At least in the US, a good point of legal recognition is to find the location in Geographic Names Information System, and most geography articles that get put up for deletion are not listed in the census for the respective country they exist in.

Overall, if there is proof that a place was populated at one point and that was recorded by a government, that is a good start for legal recognition. Reconrabbit 05:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

R Kelly image

I am really having quite a difficult time believing that an image is impossible to upload at WP other than the public domain mugshot of rapper R Kelly. The BLP article has been tennis-matched with reverted edits due to the fact that WP continually speedy deletes any and all images of the BLP. I have attempted on several occasions to request an image (Talk Page request template) and uploaded 2.5 WikiCommons category Free Share files that were immediately templated for speedy deletion without discussion. Would someone please just upload an image that passes the WP allowance for this BLP that can be used here? Enough is enough already. Thanks Maineartists (talk) 00:38, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Maineartists: Sorry, but we do not make copyright law. Congress makes the law. The Wikimedia foundation's lawyers have determined that the "fair use" doctrine does not apply to pictures of any person who is alive, because it is theoretically possible for a photographer to take another picture of the subject and release it uncer a compatible licnese. SO If you personally can take a picture of this artist, then you can upload it. If you can find a picture that has been released under a compatible license, we can help you. -Arch dude (talk) 02:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Blah. Blah. Blah. Try spelling correctly before you post here. I've seen image after image get "squeaked" past WP policy because editors know the ins-and-outs of uploading by-pass get-arounds. Stop saying "we" as if you are the WP supreme court with a gavel. Either upload an image yourself, or just point me in the direction of how to upload an image of the BLP in question. If not, then just step aside, Betty. I'm through with all this help desk mumbo-jumbo. There are certainly WP reasons as to how and why an image can be uploaded when all other images are not accessible. Maineartists (talk) 02:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

That's a bold strategy. Let's see if it pays off for you... --Onorem (talk) 02:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Maineartists, your mocking and contemptuous attitude toward copyright law and Wikipedia's image use policy will lead to a block if you do not drop the subject and move on. If you have actual evidence that other editors are evading and deliberately violating policy, then present that specific evidence or forget about it. Cullen328 (talk) 03:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

And the next time you call any editor "Betty" whose name is not Betty, I will block you myself. Cullen328 (talk) 03:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Talk page

Can a user remove some conversation from its talk page which may be negative against that user? Like a user removed some topics instead of archiving [7][8][9][10] which were of course not ideal or positive for him. Jonharojjashi (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Jonharojjashi: Users may remove anything from their talk page except for a few specific things, such as an active block notice. See WP:REMOVED RudolfRed (talk) 02:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Has it changed? I was under the impression that block notices could be removed, just not declined unblock requests. --Onorem (talk) 02:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

You are correct. I did not state it correctly. The rule is: Declined unblock requests regarding a currently active sitewide block. RudolfRed (talk) 03:01, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Changing a Redirect to Disambiguation Page?

I've recently created an article for foam depopulation, who's other common name is foaming. Initially I wanted to just add a redirect for foaming -> foam depopulation. However, Foaming currently redirects to foam. Should I try changing foaming to a disambiguation page or do something else here? If changing it to a disambiguation page, how best to go about that?

Thanks! TB5ivVaO1y55FkAogw1X (talk) 03:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

TB5ivVaO1y55FkAogw1X If "foam" is the primary topic, and "foaming" is ambiguous between two articles, you could use Template:Redirect. If "foam" is the primary topic, and "foaming" is ambiguous between three or more articles the disambiguation page would be Foaming (disambiguation). There is some guidance on formatting a disambiguation page at WP:DABSTYLE, but I usually start with a copy of an existing disambiguation page. TSventon (talk) 03:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware it's just two articles here, so add something like

"Foaming" redirects here. For a method of mass killing farm animals, see foam depopulation.

to the foam article instead of changing the redirect? TB5ivVaO1y55FkAogw1X (talk) 04:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok reading through Wikipedia:Redirect#What_needs_to_be_done_on_pages_that_are_targets_of_redirects seems to suggest that makes sense to do it like that, so going to go edit that page to add that. Probably with the {{redirect2}} template since its got some already existing redirects mentioned there TB5ivVaO1y55FkAogw1X (talk) 05:06, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

World cup football

When and where the next world cup football will be held 113.199.226.106 (talk) 03:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

The Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. If the article at FIFA World Cup doesn't have the info you're seeking, ask at the reference desk WP:RDE RudolfRed (talk) 03:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

FYI

The upcoming FIFA World Cup will be taken place over three countries, including the USA, Canada and Mexico. It will be held around June 11 to July 19, 2026. Hope this answered your question. Best, 2001:EE0:4BC7:72C0:21CD:A8F5:EB1C:410F (talk) 04:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Extra note: There will be 48 teams participating in the next World Cup instead of 32 as before. 2001:EE0:4BC7:72C0:21CD:A8F5:EB1C:410F (talk) 04:47, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Please stop. This is not a topic for the Help Desk. RudolfRed (talk) 04:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Infobox

Is there any infobox for capital punishment/execution type of articles? Imperial^[AFCND] 06:38, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

You could look around at Category:Infobox templates, but otherwise it might be helpful if you gave us the names of one or more articles to which you'd like to add such an infobox. Based on your question I'm not even sure whether you're asking with regard to articles that discuss means of execution, or articles that discuss famous executions. DonIago (talk) 06:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I was about to create an article for the execution of Sambhaji (Passes WP:GNG). I will give a short note on that. Sambhaji was the second King of the Maratha empire in India. During the Deccan Wars, he was captured and executed. There are many records with many different or similar accounts about his execution detailing the event. So , is it appropriate to use Template:infobox death? Imperial^[AFCND] 08:01, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

For additional information, the article would be similar to that of Execution of Charles I. Imperial^[AFCND] 08:06, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Considering that that article seems to be in pretty good shape and has no infobox, it may indicate that there isn't an infobox of the kind you're looking for. DonIago (talk) 04:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Image of an warship that I took

When I took a picture of the ex-USS Maricopa County laid up at the south of Vietnam, I considered posting it here yet my doubts got the better of me as it's technically a military ship still in service and would constitute a copyright violation.

Six months onward, I am now considering posting said image again, yet I would have to confer to someone experienced on here... So should I post it here? e (talk) 09:44, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I suggest you ask at WP:MCQ, where the copyright experts hang out. ColinFine (talk) 11:57, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the directions! e (talk) 12:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Browhatwhyamihere, when you ask at WP:MCQ, you might add some explanation. If it was you that took the picture, then what exactly would "constitute a copyright violation", and whose copyright would be violated, and how? -- Hoary (talk) 12:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I'll be sure to note these down once I get there. e (talk) 12:47, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

The Al-Rashid humanitarian aid incident

why is this not labeled a massacre, civilians were gunned down by the IDF. With actual video evidence of it happening 207.231.232.74 (talk) 12:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Please see discussion on the article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

How do I create a page describeing myself as editor?

how do I create a page describeing myself as editor Gamountainhiker (talk) 14:57, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

You can create your own user page at User:Gamountainhiker. Note that your user page should only contain information about you as a Wikipedia user, it is not supposed to be any kind of social media profile, a professional resume or an advertising page. JIP | Talk 15:07, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

How to download the 2012 Wikipedia?

here can I down load the 2012 wikipedia? 73.49.116.55 (talk) 17:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

WP:DUMP has the info you need on how to download it, but doing it for a specific date is beyond me. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:42, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Well you would... you would... you would not want to do that. Why would you want to do that. Herostratus (talk) 21:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

What do the citoid/auto citation tools get the ISBN data from?

I know when it's a website or something like that it gets it from the website provided it's machine readable, but what are they grabbing the book data from the associated ISBNs from? I feel like that would have to be gotten from somewhere. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Moses Montefiore

Ref number 6 is in red and I cannot fix it - please repair if you can, thanks 115.70.23.77 (talk) 23:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Another editor fixed it. There was a typo in the date, something anyone can fix including you. RudolfRed (talk) 00:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

This feels like the 50th time I've seen this issue being asked at the Help Desk. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

But what can it be done about it? Geo Rye (talk) 01:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I will check back tomorrow for any helpful suggestions. Thank you. Geo Rye (talk) 01:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Carefully proofreading edits and using the "preview" button. Learning from past questions. Using the "undo" button if you find it easier to redo the change than edit. RudolfRed (talk) 01:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

March 4

I would like to cancel my account.

I would like to cancel my account on Wikipedia. Where can I do that? I have had trouble finding acceptable references for changes/edits I wanted to make in an article that I found has incorrect information. I would like all my inputs so far erased. Can you help with that? Thank you. Geo Rye (talk) 01:29, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

@Geo Rye: Due to legal reasons for attributing edits to accounts, yours cannot be canceled or deleted. Just log off and abandon the account. A steward may be nice enough to allow you to do a courtesy vanishing. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Will do! 2601:280:8201:F5F3:F54D:2CB1:B7F1:C035 (talk) 01:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Research question

I am looking to see if there is enough sources on Master Boot Record (the artist, known irl as Victor Love) to be notable enough to warrant an article. The interesting thing is that Love also has a side project known as Keygen Church, and I was wondering if I used sources that are on Keygen Church (and if i have enough information on Keygen to warrant notability), they could be used to create a MBR article. My reasoning here is that (to my knowledge) MBR is more well known, and since the same person is behind it that they could: a. be in a single article and b. use sources for Keygen to also provide information for MBR (ofc given that it actually mentions MBR). Is this an incoherent rant? Is my reasoning sound? Looking for a second (and more experienced) opinion.

vghfr, harbinger of chaos 03:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)